Sixteen million? That many, less inclined to come out and vote for Mitt Romney, against the radical Obamacare Obama we have come to see, who is blowing up U.S. debt beyond any hope for positive change? Compared to voting for the likes of John McCain, against Obama the moderate sounding “feel good candidate,” in 2008?
Remember just a few days ago, seeing the polls show extremely high voter intensity numbers for Republicans, compared to 2008?
Here is one example from Gallup’s, “Voters Say This Election Matters More Than Most,” 11/6.
It clearly shows voter intensity was up for Republicans compared to 2008, by their measurement at a ratio of 85 to 74. Other polls reported similar results to similar questions. Especially with more poll respondents calling themselves Republicans than in 2008, that greater qualitative measurement should have translated into a greater quantitative measurement of votes — and certainly not a great deal fewer votes. Yet, somehow, by the figures below, we are expected to believe that “the white vote” was down 16 million, which happens to translate into a whopping 16%.
Tyler Behm, Reuters
This is from the wild and wooly site, Godlike Productions and has gotten a great deal of peer review there, judging from the number of comments.
Some are chalking a lot of the drop-off in white voting to Mitt Romney’s very nasty RNC Power Grab at the Republican National Convention in Tampa and the his campaign’s alienation of Ron Paul supporters. But how could that count for so many votes missing in action, when another recourse for disaffected Paul supporters was checking or writing in Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate?
Were Michael Barone, Karl Rove, and Dick Morris right – along with Mitt Romney’s own expert (and astonished) election consultants?
Is there not still a very strong backlash to chimera socialist, Barack Obama and his Obamunists in Congress — just as there was in 2010 and increasingly here in Wisconsin, throughout the recount elections? I sure think so.
Was there vote fraud done in numerous ways, including destroying ballots and electronic will-o-the-wisp votes during the days and days in which votes hung on the line, due to early voting? How about the states where votes were insanely counted by transnational SCYTL company’s systems, headquartered in Spain?
Since numerous sites are re-publishing this oringinal post, by “Anonymous Coward,” so will we:
WHERE DID 16 MILLION WHITE VOTES GO????
It is being widely reported that there were 117 million votes cast: 60 million Obama and 57+ million for Romney.This is down 13 million from 2008 total of 131.4 million.
In 2008 it is recorded that 100 million whites cast a vote representing 74% of the total and the minority share of the vote was 26%.
Now they are reporting out of a total of 117 million votes, whites cast 72% and minorities cast 28%.
That means that only 84 million whites voted in 2012 down 16 million from the 100 million whites who voted in 2008.
Extrapolating from that, we have to say that 3 million more minorities voted in 2012 than in 2008.
In 2010 the resident population of voting age (including aliens of voting age) was 234,564,000. This was an increase in resident population of almost 5 million from the 2008 figure.
Yet we are expected to believe that there was a net loss of votes of 13 million representing 16 million fewer white voters and an additional 3 million minority voters.
I mean, this is just NOT BELIEVABLE.
I refer you to a chart of all the Presidential elections from 1932 -2010. [link to www.census.gov]
As you can see, as the population increases, the number of voters increases in every election cycle except when Clinton ran for re-election against Dole. Not a hotly contested election. Kind of a walk away for Clinton. And, even with this….the drop in voters is not near 13 million, and 16 million whites.
This turn out and loss of 16 million whites in a hotly contested election such as this one is absolutely NOT believable.
What is really going on?
Smells foul to me.
h/t: @tasteofaz
They’re not “missing”, and – contraRove – nobody “supressed” them. After 6 straight elections of Republicrats vomiting up a corporate-Socialist candidate (Bush, Dole, Bush, Bush, McCain, Romney) about 10 million White, gun-owning HardRights have seen through the GOP and will no longer support it. Did you really expect us to vote for a career gun-grabber who invented Obamacare before there was an Obama? Think again. And, with Florida now overrun by the Brown Tide, the Republicrats are no longer a national party. Goodbye and good riddance. “The Center Will Not Hold”….and soon we will resolve issues with other means. Think Spain, 1936.
OT, for every person like you who refused to see that Barack Obama is a Marxist saboteur, there was a patriot who dragged a neighbor out of his house, to vote against that snake.
OT… no matter who you voted for, it does not affect the numbers as reported above, unless of course, every one of the 10 million white gun owners you speak of also reported their race as something other than “White”.
Let them know we think the election was rigged we have 61000 signed in just a few days…please spread the word…please sign the petition. If you believe like I do that there was massive fraud.
Sign the petition, get the word out, we want a recount…don’t let fraud ruin our country:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recount-election/ZQmy0Mlv#thank-you=p
Please take the time to sign this petition too. Let them know America is angry about voter fraud: over 100,000 signed.
http://www.petition2congress.com/8222/petition-recount-on-2012-presidential-election/?fb_action_ids=4927316146460&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582
Request Voter ID Laws:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/implement-voter-id-federal-law-requiring-all-voters-present-government-issued-photo-id-vote/SxLYR012
And to request those who committed voter fraud to be held accountable:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/investigate-suspected-voter-fraud-prosecute-fullest-extent-law/KccFSdKq
See Mitt Romney’s response: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=519640714713551&set=a.221499604527665.68159.220814084596217&type=1
OT, As a gun owner and former Marine, I haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. I live in Louisiana which passed the most important piece of legislation for gun owners since the Second Amendment of the Constitution. Like myself gun owners of this state were waiting in line when the polls opened to vote for this amendment and Mitt Romney; because we have no doubt of Obama’s plan for America. Believe me when I tell you no one is t o the right of me, they may stand at my side; however, the right end here. Open your eyes and mind and look at the facts: Obama’s planned attack on what he calls assault weapons is now a matter of public record and on November 7th the US resumed talks with the UN on the Global Small Arms Ban; two items Mitt Romney sworn to oppose. Above I mentioned what Obama Considers an Assault Weapon: no one of the weapons on this list is a weapon of that ilk. An Assault Weapon has the capacity to fire in the full automatic mode, all the weapon on his Assault weapon are semi- automatic weapons: NOT ASSAULT WEAPONS. No one as Conservative as you claim to be or Gun owner would take the inane stand you claim to be a part of because anyone that voted for Obama did not looked beyond the color of his skin as 97% of black voters proved on 6 November 2012. It is also apparent to many American White or Black that voted for Obama have ever read the US Constitution or wish to destroy it and the American way of life. This can only mean that a Socialist agenda is involved and supports this traitors cause; 16 Million votes cast by voters apposed to this agenda are missing and I’m certain not for the reasons you stated. As a Mathematician I know statistically this Election was a massive fraud perpetrated on the American People. November 6th 2012 is a date that will live in infamy along side December 7th 1941, as an unprovoked attack on the American way of life.
Commander Walter Fitzpatrick Files Formal, Criminal Charges of Treason Against Obama With The FBI.
Will The FBI Investigate The Allegations Or Throw His Complaint In The Trash Can?
Time Will Tell…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysAsw7NHHrI
Hey Arlen I bet Assad has the weapons from the Libya raid on the Embassy now , http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/11/09/271277/assad-warns-of-global-apocalyptic-war/
The entire thing was run like a banana republic beginning with the lawsuits to keep us from checking photo ID under the ridiculous notion it’s “racist” (A Soros invention pushed through MoveOn & Media Matters)! The dems are completely backed by Soros & know exactly how to steal an election! Add to the that the counting software is run out of spain by SKYTL now owned by Soros?! Total conflict of interest & corruption with an international Felon & financial terrorist who is using Obama to complete hos agenda! How much ya wanna bet all these missing voters used the machines to vote? See hacking democracy! The very same machines that have a habit of switching Romney votes to Obama votes! (Company owned by Soros with machines are maintained by SEIU!) Barry had a horrible turnout even with all the fraud, so the obviously had to make theR/R votes be less than what they had at that point, so… Soros had the hacking app get in tne network & crossindex the people he believed most likely RR supporters using program that hacks in remotely & purges the groups. I know that’s what happend & ya’ll know it too! Why does every other country no longer use electronic ballot machines? They cannot be trusted at all! We know the base was fired up! Polls had record breaking turnout. We all said we’d crawl on broken glass & though fire to vote and we did!! We told everyone we knew about the usurper & they did the same. We watched many movies about BHO & his agenda. We read & researched & knew our country hung in the ballance. _The polls like the rallies in swing states were packed with turnout of R/R & people , some that were retired & never voted before in their lives or there were those that voted Dem their whole life. All anxiously awating the moment we can place our vote.I & everyone else was confident we had it afterward. Unless fraud stole it. Fraud was reported all day. Our GOVERNMENT has been usurped by a despot & his gangster government of thugs America!! What must we do? We must act! We have mountains of evidence!!
The election is over, The results are final and not going to be changed. BUT before the Republican party decides to throw everything under the bus, some very smart people in the party need to take a very hard look at these numbers and make sure the really mean what they say they mean. Just where did these votes go? We need to connect the dots before any change of course is decided on.
We know the military vote was absolutely suppressed for starters. You have the out in the open Soros funded Secretary of State program in play this time around. If that little program was not supposed to do anything, why was it in existence in the first place? What was the real purpose of trying to stop ID requirements? The justice department trying to block states from updating their voting roles? Wierd things going on with the electronic voting machines was not due to calibration errors. The old Stalin bromide about it is not the voters that count but who counts the votes.
Something very big and very wrong happened and those smart people need to find out what it was and keep quiet about it. Because if it worked once at the national level, it can now work and be used at every level.
Have you noticed how quiet the other side is about the election? Oh you have some yahoos out there popping off, but for the most part things are very quiet. Too quiet. Reminds me of when I played sports and the ref did not see something and your team benefitted from it in such a way that you won the contest. Time for some smart folks to take a hard look at things. From here on out it may be that we need to spend more time and money making sure the process is trued out. If the chinese can hack into power grids, the WH and the Pentagon among other things, anything becomes possible… especailly if you are counting U.S. votes in Spain…
“Have you noticed how quiet the other side is about the election? Oh you have some yahoos out there popping off, but for the most part things are very quiet. Too quiet. Reminds me of when I played sports and the ref did not see something and your team benefitted from it in such a way that you won the contest”
Brilliant!!!!!!
We have to ask questions of our congress, house, WH, the media, and not stop until they drop…… We will be relentless in our approach!
Have you noticed how quiet the other side is about the election? Oh you have some yahoos out there popping off, but for the most part things are very quiet. Too quiet. Reminds me of when I played sports and the ref did not see something and your team benefitted from it in such a way that you won the contest
I didn’t mean to repeat your comment cdubbs. but it must be good that it is worth repeating :)
If this election is not fully investigated, the next one will be corrupted.
There is no doubt that this election was stolen by way of voter/voting machine fraud! The bigger problem is that we have 535 people representing us that could do something about it and they aren’t doing a thing! We have now allowed an alien to be president, against the wishes of our forefathers, so should we just add to that the truth that not all votes are counted? What a sad state of affairs. Why should we vote if it’s only going to be stolen anyway? I am sick of the politics. I have unplugged. No more Rush, Hannity, Levin or Fox News. One day they are espousing how this is the most important election of our lifetime and the next day its, “oh well…we lost. Let’s start working on 2016.” I’m done!
Beyond,
There is no “I’m done!” in the United States of America
The fact that ANYONE tracks votes by ethnicity is repugnant. The only reason to do so is to pit one group of people against another. With the major party choice between a Mormon and Marxists, it is not wonder so many people declined to vote for one or the other.
Manfred, that does not begin with exit polls. See the Census. It was taken over by Obama’s political army and ACORN people. More will be written about that….
The election was all Cloward Piven. Massive fraud. Overwhelm the system on election night at the last minute. Flood in voters to precincts. This happened epsecially in SE FL and N VA. Steal more in early voting. Bus people around all day to precincts. People in OH talked to Romney lawyers the next day and they were calling into HQ but were worried about racism.
Get off the ROmney was a bad candidate BS.
Now it all gets hushed up by the GOP, Rush, conservative talkers. Forget about TV news including Fox – they were co running the sham that night with early calls. I stopped watching TV years ago. Where is the GOP? Do we change the story and move on to Petreaus/ They are all afraid of Obama now. Alan West ignored like the men in Libya calling for help? Where is the GOP? Where is Rsuh? Drudge? Forget Hannity and Fox. Speak up. At least help Col. Allan West.
We no longer have voting rights. We are serfs or slaves. Electronic voting will not work. You need paper ballots and monitored precincts.
Well if they were stolen, the question is by who? Romney’s family owns the company that makes a good deal of these voting machines. Wouldn’t the Romney camp have proof that fraud happened?
Sounds to me like more crazy talk which is exactly what led a good amount of voters away from the republican ticket. Stop making excuses, admit defeat, lick your wounds and man up!
Historical data on 56 previous elections indicate at least 15 to 20 million votes flipped and missing. Data available for everyone right in front of our eyes. Out of 56 presidential elections there were only 7 elections that voter turn out was down from previous elections. The combined total for all 7 elections is 13,428,613 or 0.73% out of all 56 elections generating 1,835,207,811 votes. These 7 elections had events such as war of 1812, civil war, ww2, stock market crash attached to declines in voter turn out.
The average growth in all presidential elections is 2,892,573 per election. The increase in votes for the last 5 presidential elections is 40 million. Yes that’s an average of 8 million more votes per for the last 5 elections, In 2008 131 million votes were counted. On Nov 2012 Gallop reported that this election mattered more to democrats 66% independents 62% and republicans 85%. So voter turnout 131 million from 2008 + 8 million average rate of growth last 5 elections + increased voter interest. That is 139 million + increased interest. 122 million votes counted for 2012 ???? THATS A SHORTFALL OF 17 MILLION VOTES!!!!! Where are they ? Everyone lets put on our thinking caps and why are we being distracted to different issues?.
does it touch you in your core?
The election is over and Obama won stop running around screaming voter fraud its making you all and the party look like rambling Idiots. The reason the votes were down was because for republicans it was voting for the shiniest of two turds frankly put. You have Obama who is against everything the republicans stand for, ok so lets not vote for him. Then you have Mitt….. Mitt was a horrible candidate from day 1. In all honestly i would rather have Obama than a candidate that does not understand the most basic BASICS of Economics. And Mitt Romney had no plan. He never did, the republican plan for him was “beat Obama then we will figure it out from there.” We can not have this mentality. If you want to fix the country tell us how dont tell us that its too good for the public to know that will rub anyone the wrong way. The only people who voted for Mitt are either A.) Die hard republicans. or B.) The few idiots who actually thing obama is an illegal Muslim who’s goal is to destroy america. P.S. Stop spewing that you will NEVER convince a single person that has even half a brain that is true. If you want to actually have a chance next election try not looking like a bunch of mumbling Idiots and we might actually take the office again.
“In all honestly i would rather have Obama than a candidate that does not understand the most basic BASICS of Economics”
Could you elaborate on the above statement please?