The Donald has been trumping up the birth certificate issue, but two of our original natural born Citizen activists tell him, Rush Limbaugh, John Gibson, other radio talk show hosts — and all of us — what is already glaringly obvious.
From Steve Marquis
Many Conservative commentators have been running scared of associating themselves with the Natural Born Citizen Clause issue. If they would be informed and just stick to the political issue of whether it would be helpful or not to the cause, their lack of promotion would be tolerable. getter their facts from the camp of the enemy is not.
Review my slightly expanded letter sent to Talk Show host John Gibson and please free to pass this on to talk show hosts across the land and your friends. The arguments are very sound and address the most common talking points. This effort needs all your help. Grass roots requires each blade to do something. Will you take a few minutes and send this on today?
Yours in the cause for the American people
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 12:32 AM
Subject: Factual errors in your section on Natural Born Citizenship question and GOP
As one of the initial people starting this movement, I say you raised a good question on your show about the NBC issue helping or hurting GOP chances in 2012. With over 50% of all Americans questioning or at least uncertain about the legitimacy of the President, I would argue that we have created a gut level visceral distrust that will count more against the president – some overtly but many more at a subliminal level.
I’m sorry given the volume of email you must get that this note isn’t a sound bite, but there are a number of good sound bites embedded herein!
Yes we will cause some to swing the other way, but many more will enter the debates already distrusting the man. It works well enough for the GOP to let us do the battle and let the GOP simply say “If Obama was as transparent as he promised ½ the nation would not be raising this question; When will Mr. Obama stop hiding his agenda on gun confiscation…” – and then change the subject to substantive issues. We do the damage, the GOP reaps the benefit but they have to ALWAYS turn it onto offence. Always merge the subjects and immediately attack the president for his hidden agendas. Its legit and very powerful as long as the candidates stay off their heels and attack.
This is a good debate to have but do get your facts straight and please don’t unfairly denigrate our position. Let me point out a couple of factual errors and key omissions made on your show last night (KTTH about 8:30pm PST).
Error/omission 1) Governor failed to find any hospital record. While some may speculate if a relative placed the notice, it was the practice to push that notice from the health department to the local newspapers as you pointed out. That makes the announcement redundant – not independent confirmation as some like Glen Beck have asserted. Trump is therefore to be excused repeating this as Glen and many others have voiced it. Trump is basically right though in that it only took one interested party, probably the supposed Grandmother, to fill out a form at the Health Department claiming a birth of a Hawaiian resident to create that infamous notation the Governor claims knowledge of to cause the announcement to be pushed to the newspapers. If the baby was born in a pickup truck, rather than a hospital, this is the same kind of record that could have been created. Astonishingly, in Hawaii, even an off shore birth could be registered as Hawaiian if one of the parents were claimed to have been a resident in Hawaii the previous year! That is the essence of Trumps statement. This is fundamentally why the Governor utterly and embarrassingly failed in his campaign promise to find the actual birth record. Apparently there is none – other than the notation in the record and that is why he failed.
Error/omission 2) Prophetic view or just an anchor baby. You created a paper tiger about motives, thinking no one would have any other reason to claim US citizenship for a foreign birth than some prophetic view of a future presidency. Ask any of the tens of thousands of anchor baby mothers if they can find a reason for establishing US citizenship! It may be more interesting than that, but it might not be any more complicated than that either.
Error/omission 3) White & Brown candidates challenged too. As a reporter/commentator, surely you know that many of our law suits named John McCain as well as Callaro as potential usurpers to the Presidency; none of the three having passed the NBC tests. You would also know that McCain was in fact challenged in Court over his status, only his case was heard unlike the dozens of cases against Obama which have all been sidestepped by judicial sleight of hand rather than an open court decision. Interestingly for the conspiracy minded, his lawsuit was dropped by the plaintiff just before the judge could actually rule…
Regarding the several cases that made it to the Supreme court for review, Justice Thomas who has advocated these cases, said of his colleagues, “We are avoiding that issue!” Many other Presidential and VP candidates over the years have been challenged in court and it was quite common in the past for the candidate to be required to show his Birth credentials to each state to be on the ballot in the 1st place. Racism is just a red herring used by real racists who can’t see beyond their own skin bias.
Error/omission 4) Parentage. Lastly and very importantly note that there are numerous lawsuits, several of which I had a personal hand in, that Justice Thomas tried to bring before the court that key off Obama’s sworn statements of his parentage – NOT his place of birth. George Washington and the other founders were quite concerned that a “Son of King George,” as it were, could be born on US soil, then by intrigue, be elevated to the presidency; his divided loyalties to then be exploited.
The Dual Citizen issue was of great concern hence the requirement for Natural Born Citizen Status. Some have attempted to water this down to just being “born here,’ but the clear intent was to avoid divided loyalties in the president if one or both of his parents had foreign loyalties inculcating those same foreign loyalties in the child; hence the statement “subject to the jurisdiction therein.” They also deemed it prudent that the child be born here, together with US citizen parents, to maximize the likelihood that the child be raised and acculturated in the local culture with singular loyalties.
John, The man acts like a foreigner with very questionable loyalties, raised abroad by a hodge-podge ‘family’ of known communists, coddled as a fatherless youth by communist poet Frank Marshall Davis, paid through school by foreign Islamic fascists, apprenticed and elevated to power in Illinois by communists terrorists and radicals like Ayers and mentored for decades by “God Damn America” politically driven preachers like Wright, who now bows to foreign royalty and conducts internal policies like the socialist/communists he trained under. He was a stealth candidate with no appreciable voting record, no writings from his law school days to review, sealed records from every institution of record, the briefest of published health records and to keep these empty list brief not even school buddies with any memory of him. This is simply unprecedented – the man is a ghost!
John, Mr Obama seems to be in very deed King George’s revenge – at last.
From Dean Haskins
Dear Mr. Trump and Mr. Limbaugh: I am addressing you both because I believe the two of you are most integral to getting this controversy properly resolved; and, yes, Rush, I concur with the caller who reminded you of your shirking this issue when it really mattered most. I was the chairman of a now-defunct national organization that existed in 2008-09 that attempted to bring this fraud to the forefront (yes, we were the original “birthers”). We had members across the country send emails, certified letters, and make telephone calls—first, to the electoral college members, then to the members of Congress, and ultimately to every sitting state governor. Additionally, we tirelessly tried to get the conservative media on board with us; but it seemed a veil of evil was keeping our efforts from reaching the synapses of the collective brain of those whom we normally trust to think logically and in defense of our country and its Constitution.
Before continuing, please allow me to offer a hearty “Bravo” to you, Mr. Trump, for finally shedding some well-deserved light on this constitutionally grave issue.
That being said, and with the understanding that you are both highly intelligent men, please allow me to proffer an opinion about how you could unquestioningly even the odds of the truth’s prevailing. Obama is also a very intelligent man, and I believe he has orchestrated this SHELL GAME to his vast benefit. He continues to convince the doltish masses that the “pea” is his birth certificate, and has spent large sums to promulgate that deception. But, what happens if that possibly-fake pea is uncovered, and shows nothing nefarious about his place of birth? Since he controls whether or not that document is ever seen, he can continue the game ad infinitum—for he is master of the game’s outcome. Moreover, by doing so, he misdirects the focus off the very thing that irrevocably ends the game.
I agree with you, Mr. Trump, that the birth certificate likely contains information Obama wants to keep hidden; however, if there’s anything I have learned in life, it is that the term “likely” denotes lack of certainty. It is most unfortunate that Obama has been able to keep this issue in the arena of uncertainty, when there is another argument to be made that is a sure bet (and is precisely where this conman has been so crafty by keeping everyone asking about the birth certificate).
There are three constitutional qualifications to be president: to be at least 35 years of age, to have resided here for at least 14 years, and to be a natural born citizen. The Obama camp has wagered well that the majority of Americans simply do not know what the term “natural born citizen” means. There is actually a wealth of delineating information available, but to keep this communication succinct, historically, the definition is this: one who is born on our soil to two citizen parents. That definition can be found in Emmerich de Vattel’s “Law of Nations,” which was the blueprint the framers used to craft our Constitution, and was the commonly understood definition at the time of framing. The fact that the term was used at all, along with the grandfather clause the framers used to eliminate that requirement for themselves, is enough for any logical thinker to understand their intent.
Barack Obama, Sr. was never a citizen of our country, which, at the time of Barack, Jr.’s birth, made him forever ineligible to hold the office of president (apart from a constitutional amendment changing the requirement). That half of the eligibility discussion is what Obama has been able to keep from public scrutiny with his masterful use of smoke and mirrors.
Yes, we DO need to see the birth certificate, but I believe we probably won’t. And, what happens if we see it and it becomes a Geraldo Rivera/Al Capone fiasco? Who will look like a stooge then?
The issue, at this point, is not whether or not Obama is a U.S. Citizen, but that he is NOT a natural born citizen according to the historic definition of the term—because his father was not a U.S. Citizen when junior was born. Case settled and closed.
So, I humbly implore both of you to defend the Constitution of our great nation by revealing to the public at large that Obama may, or may not, fulfill the requirement for half of the natural born citizen mandate, but that he unequivocally does not fulfill the requirement for the other half, and therefore, is ineligible to hold the office of president.
Thank you for your time.
P.S. I produced some YouTube videos for that organization I chaired that our elected officials and the conservative media ignored:
One thing any Hawiian birth certificate should tell us is whether Barack Hussein Obama of Kenya is actually the father of the putative president, Barry Soetoro.* Do we know this is true? If so, according to the clearly presented meaning of the U.S. Constitution, he should not be sleeping in that house every night.
* We use his name as registered in Indonesian elementary school, where they required students to have Indonesian citizenship, if registered in public school, and which in turn meant any United States citizenship he held would have been revoked. Thus, this is the last apparently authentic citizenship known, for the man in the White House.